Adolescent Bully

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Yup - I know one. Barack Obama.

Ever read Dreams of My Father? Explain his presidential portrait floating among the shrubs.
Nice whataboutism - yes I read Dreams of My Father ' awesome book. He was able to be honest about how he grew up and his failures. Turned into a very respectable adult.
Trump can't be honest about anything and at 70+ still acts like a 12 or 13 yo with his lying, his name calling, derogatory comments, making fun of people's shortcomings - all stemming from his narcissism, his need to control, his insecurities. He also has used bullying all his life to get what he wants - that is his 'Art of the Deal ' - watched him in action for years in New York.
 
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Yanks27

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Nice whataboutism - yes I read Dreams of My Fayher ' awesome book. He was able to be honest about how he grew up Nd his failures. Turned into a very respectable adult.
Trump can't be honest about anything and at 70+ still acts like a 12 or 13 yo with his lying, his name calling, derogatory comments, making fun of people's shortcomings - all stemming from his narcissism, his need to control, his insecurities. He also has used bullying all his life to get what he wants - that is his 'Art of the Deal ' - watched him in action for years in New York.
Everybody who voted for Trump knows this about him. They don’t care. Employ the same strategy they did in 2016 and you’ll get the same result. Considering the the weak field currently out there, my money is on 4 more years of Trump.
 

Ty Webb

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Nice whataboutism - yes I read Dreams of My Fayher ' awesome book. He was able to be honest about how he grew up Nd his failures. Turned into a very respectable adult.
Trump can't be honest about anything and at 70+ still acts like a 12 or 13 yo with his lying, his name calling, derogatory comments, making fun of people's shortcomings - all stemming from his narcissism, his need to control, his insecurities. He also has used bullying all his life to get what he wants - that is his 'Art of the Deal ' - watched him in action for years in New York.
Obama was a malignant narcissist. The worst kind. That you fail to acknowledge that is telling.

I got news for you. All presidents are narcissists. So far, Trump's version of leadership is doing quite well for the USA. I see you've written that you have retired to Florida. How are your retirement accounts doing? How were they 5 years ago?
 

Ty Webb

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Everybody who voted for Trump knows this about him. They don’t care. Employ the same strategy they did in 2016 and you’ll get the same result. Considering the the weak field currently out there, my money is on 4 more years of Trump.
Agreed. The democrats have only themselves to blame should Trump win a second term. I think he will. The party is in complete disarray. They have no platform, other than hate. Orange hair Cheeto man bad. Their actual policies have shifted so radical as to make the D party of Bill Clinton 20 years ago unrecognizeable, so even if they could find a decent candidate the American electorate will reject the policies.

Trump, for all his warts, has built an American economy and changed the course of the country domestically and geopolitically that is undeniably positive when factually analyzed.

That is - if you believe in national sovereignty, and that the USA should be a leader, and that the post World War 2 global order should stay intact.

The funny thing, is that if you believe that stuff - you get a strong American economy and stuff like rising wages, and the lowest black and hispanic and female unemployment ever.

Paying Jobs suck, for people that want socialism and centralized government authority and government dependency of populations.
 
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Obama was a malignant narcissist. The worst kind. That you fail to acknowledge that is telling.

I got news for you. All presidents are narcissists. So far, Trump's version of leadership is doing quite well for the USA. I see you've written that you have retired to Florida. How are your retirement accounts doing? How were they 5 years ago?
Not Florida, too hot, too conservative.
All politicians have narcissistic tendencies - none as malignant as Trump.
Leadership doing well? I disagree. Mutual funds up from 5 years ago, stocks down. Economy not sustainable with the debt and deficits he's running - what he has done to divide us, his disdain for anyone not white, his stand on LGBTQ, climate change, trade, the way he treats allies, the way he worships dictators and autocrats - all of these are damaging our country.
 

Ty Webb

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Not Florida, too hot, too conservative.
All politicians have narcissistic tendencies - none as malignant as Trump.
Leadership doing well? I disagree. Mutual funds up from 5 years ago, stocks down. Economy not sustainable with the debt and deficits he's running - what he has done to divide us, his disdain for anyone not white, his stand on LGBTQ, climate change, trade, the way he treats allies, the way he worships dictators and autocrats - all of these are damaging our country.
I thought I read Florida somewhere. Sorry.

You seem unwilling to let go of the things that the media has programmed into the population of the USA that you clearly are part of.

I disagree about your first statement btw - not sure if you typed 'politicians' instead of 'presidents' on purpose or if it was a Freudian slip.

Not all politicians are narcissists, and not all of the even have any narcissistic tendencies. AOC is a good example though, of what happens when conditioned and programmed socialists gain political power. "I'm the boss!!" That woman is a such a textbook study. So was Obama. Socialists are the worst narcissists when they gain political power.

But presidents - a significant narcissism is a job requirement. The only quesiton is whether or not it's a malignant one or not.

Obama took great pleasure in punishing his political enemies with the power of the presidency and the intelligence community and the department of justice threatening jail time, and ruining careers. He gloated about it publicly. That - is sadism. And that is malignant narcissism. I noticed you failed to respond to my question about his presidential portrait in the national historic gallery.

Trump - for all his faults, is not in the same ballpark as Obama - at all. Your commentary about children becoming gangsters is almost comical, followed by your comments about Obama.

Obama was a true Chicago style gangster in the Oval Office - and he loved it.
 
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Ty Webb

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You tout low unemployment numbers but explain why the wage gap between white and black is getting worse?
https://www.epi.org/press/wage-inequality-continued-in-2018-disparities-by-race-and-gender-persist/
I did no such thing. Talk about 'whataboutism'

I touted the value of the national sovereignty, American global leadership and maintaining the structure of the post World War 2 global order. These things are all at complete odds with globalism and the Marxist march to the dialectic. The natural consequence is more American citizen jobs at higher wages.

There is a major income gap in the USA, and it's roots trace to the democratic party economic policies of Jimmy Carter. A true socialist. The income gap is the product of a vision of society that is a two class system, rather than a 3 class system - and that started long, long berfore Trump.

It's interesting that you see the need to put black and white on it.
 

August_west

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Everybody who voted for Trump knows this about him. They don’t care. Employ the same strategy they did in 2016 and you’ll get the same result. Considering the the weak field currently out there, my money is on 4 more years of Trump.

Ill take that bet.

What are the stakes?
 

August_west

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There is a major income gap in the USA, and it's roots trace to the democratic party economic policies of Jimmy Carter. A true socialist. The income gap is the product of a vision of society that is a two class system, rather than a 3 class system - and that started long, long berfore Trump.

You are truly an insane man.

LOL Jimmy Carter economic policies led to it.

Yes it started long before Trump and BOTH parties have not addressed it. But Trump shot it with steroids.

Wait until you see what that brings you.
 

Ty Webb

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You are truly an insane man.

LOL Jimmy Carter economic policies led to it.

Yes it started long before Trump and BOTH parties have not addressed it. But Trump shot it with steroids.

Wait until you see what that brings you.
You don't seem like you're well informed on this. Or maybe just have trouble reading visuals and graphs and stuff. After the economic disaster of the 1920s (which traces to a certain type of philosophy as well) the income gap in the USA was steadily evening out with an emphasis on a 3 class society. That changed dramatically in the late 1970s, and until the legislative core problems created then are addressed, it won't change, regardless of the political party that temporarily holds the executive power in the Oval Office.

But you're probably right I guess, that the Carter administration had nothing to do with it.

(edit: and I suppose that by focusing on national sovereignty, American global leadership, and maintaining the post WW2 global order, and thereby raising wages for all American citizens, and recording the lowest unemployment ever is somehow a bad thing.)
 
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August_west

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edit: and I suppose that by focusing on national sovereignty, American global leadership, and maintaining the post WW2 global order, and thereby raising wages for all American citizens, and recording the lowest unemployment ever is somehow a bad thing.)
What percentage of new wealth last year went to the 1% ?
 

Ty Webb

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What percentage of new wealth last year went to the 1% ?
How are you measuring new wealth last year? What is 'new wealth' anyway? I feel like you're trying to bully me. In an adolescent way.

I have stated clear facts about strategic policy of the Trump admin domestically and internationally and it's direct effect on the employment rates and wage rates of the American population. These are facts and they are indisputable.

Is it bad that unemployment across the board is the lowest on record currently, specifically the lowest on record for women and minorities? And that wages are rising?

I don't think so. But I feel like you and Kathy are trying to deflect from that.

The rush of illegal immigration to the USA is proof positive that the economy is more desireable than in the past for labor. Frankly - I'd prefer that US citizens get jobs, over illegal immigrants.

I suspect that the vast majority of newly employed women and men of all identity markers would agree.
 

August_west

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How are you measuring new wealth last year? What is 'new wealth' anyway? I feel like you're trying to bully me. In an adolescent way.

I have stated clear facts about strategic policy of the Trump admin domestically and internationally and it's direct effect on the employment rates and wage rates of the American population. These are facts and they are indisputable.

Is it bad that unemployment across the board is the lowest on record currently, specifically the lowest on record for women and minorities? And that wages are rising?

I don't think so. But I feel like you and Kathy are trying to deflect from that.

The rush of illegal immigration to the USA is proof positive that the economy is more desireable than in the past for labor. Frankly - I'd prefer that US citizens get jobs, over illegal immigrants.

I suspect that the vast majority of newly employed women and men of all identity markers would agree.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/mone...y-new-wealth-last-year-went-top-1/1051947001/