Adolescent Bully

#25
Is it bad that unemployment across the board is the lowest on record currently, specifically the lowest on record for women and minorities? And that wages are rising?
Did you even look at the article I posted about the wage gap? Sure employment is up, but how many of those jobs pay a living wage?
 

Ty Webb

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#26
Did you even look at the article I posted about the wage gap? Sure employment is up, but how many of those jobs pay a living wage?
Sure. Same question though. It's weird that you and Sybil don't seem to want to answer. Could it be that you simply have a mental block to acknowledge anything positive to Orange Hair Bully Man? (rhetorical)

Here it is again: (not rhetorical)

Is it bad that unemployment across the board is the lowest on record currently, specifically the lowest on record for women and minorities? And that wages are rising?

I suppose the proper follow up question at this point due to obstinance from you and him(them) is:

Are 'living wages' consistent across the entire USA?

I don't expect an answer at this point, just more deflection.

AOC made some interesting and highly amusing comments about $7 croissants at LaGuardia the other day - that is to people that aren't communist programmed. What's most amusing, is her complete lack of understanding that airport concessions are a completely closed market, that is centralized controlled. But it's also the fact that the bar she worked at before winning an election closed, rather than pay a $15 minimum wage.
 
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Sure. Same question though. It's weird that you and Sybil don't seem to want to answer. Could it be that you simply have a mental block to acknowledge anything positive to Orange Hair Bully Man? (rhetorical)

Here it is again: (not rhetorical)

Is it bad that unemployment across the board is the lowest on record currently, specifically the lowest on record for women and minorities? And that wages are rising?

I suppose the proper follow up question at this point due to obstinance from you and him(them) is:

Are 'living wages' consistent across the entire USA?

I don't expect an answer at this point, just more deflection.

AOC made some interesting and highly amusing comments about $7 croissants at LaGuardia the other day - that is to people that aren't communist programmed. What's most amusing, is her complete lack of understanding that airport concessions are a completely closed market, that is centralized controlled. But it's also the fact that the bar she worked at before winning an election closed, rather than pay a $15 minimum wage.
Glad unemployment down BUT I know some parents who no longer qualified for programs like WIC, SNAP because they were employed yet still didn't make enough to compensate for the lost benefits.
Employment is great but not if some minimum wage job that doesn't allow you to take care of your family.
And yes living wage varies by where you live but so dies minimum wage. Some states don't even have a minimum wage.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/labor-and-employment/state-minimum-wage-chart.aspx

Again with the debt and deficits this economy is not sustainable.

Unemployment rate has been dropping for 9 years so basically Trump continued what Obama started.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fo...st-a-continuation-from-obamas-presidency/amp/
 

Ty Webb

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#28
Hmmm. That is interesting. Almost a breakthrough of sorts. Almost an acknowledgent that there could be good in American society at present even with Orange Hair Bully Bad Man in the oval office. Almost.

Its not a flat out rejection response, so there is that. But the social population opinion programming tied to the Obama era - still very strong.

Its probably because you are old enough to remember a Democractic party that was based on American values. The current party - that of Obama through present is not. The current D party as it shapes in 2019-2020 has its values and platform straight from 19th century German materialist dialecticians by way of early 20th century Russian bullies.

Real bullies. Like Chicago gangsta wannabd Obama.

There is nothing American about the values espoused in current D politics ,and if you think Trump admin has merely continued the Obama admin with regards to domestic and global economics - you are lost irretrievably.

But it wasnt a flat out rejection of - 'Orange Hair Man bad'. SO that is good. Small wins.
 
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#29
Keep hoping- Trump is slowly destroying everything this country has stood for domestically and globally. I grew up in the sixties and cheered the hard fought gains but also watched cities burn, students executed by national guardsmen, lynchings, veterans disrespected. This country was a powder keg - Trump is pushing us backwards to an intolerant, divided country and if it explodes it will be worse than anything I witnessed back then and God help us all.
 

Ty Webb

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#30
Yes, indeed. You are old enough to remember when the Democractic party was based on American values.

I am too.

It isn't anymore. The D party currently is a Marxist-Leninist wet dream.

And I disagree the Trump is destroying everything the USA has stood from domestically and globally.

He is promoting a continuation of the value of national sovereignty of Westphalia and the the post World War 2 order (about 400 years of history) that has led to the greatest prosperity the globe has ever seen and the most value on human life and human rights EVER globally - with the USA leading the way after defeating the British Empire in a massive insurgency war and then defeating the feudal powers of world war in 1 and then the communist and fascist powers of World War 2.

But the communists seeded well, and now - we are dealing with it.

Reminder: AOC has a college degrees in economics and international business relations from Boston University.

that sends shivers up my spine.
 
#31
I grew up in the sixties and cheered the hard fought gains but also watched cities burn, students executed by national guardsmen, lynchings, veterans disrespected.
I suspect we are of comparable age, and therefore I must take issue with parts of this sentence.

Calling the Kent State tragedy an 'execution' is a blatant mislabeling of the events of that weekend.

I was quite surprised by the "lynchings" you claimed to have experienced. "Lynching - (of a mob) kill (someone), especially by hanging, for an alleged offense with or without a legal trial." When I think lynching I think hanging. As best as I can determine there have not been any actual racial hatred hangings in the US since at least the 30's (did not go back further than that). Some people, I guess you are one, have a broad definition of the word, but I find that deceitful as used by you above.

On a lesser note, not all veterans were disrespected. I was in the Army from 69-71 and was never bothered by anyone. :)
 

Ty Webb

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I suspect we are of comparable age, and therefore I must take issue with parts of this sentence.

Calling the Kent State tragedy an 'execution' is a blatant mislabeling of the events of that weekend.

I was quite surprised by the "lynchings" you claimed to have experienced. "Lynching - (of a mob) kill (someone), especially by hanging, for an alleged offense with or without a legal trial." When I think lynching I think hanging. As best as I can determine there have not been any actual racial hatred hangings in the US since at least the 30's (did not go back further than that). Some people, I guess you are one, have a broad definition of the word, but I find that deceitful as used by you above.

On a lesser note, not all veterans were disrespected. I was in the Army from 69-71 and was never bothered by anyone. :)
It's possible that Kathy was referring to Detroit in 1967, but then it wouldn't have been the guard, it was the 82nd and 101st AB that was called in.

It's just an observation, but I think Kathy's use of such language in this discussion is purely a means of trying to achieve cognitive balance with the following fact:

In the Trump administration, unemployment across the board is the lowest on record currently, specifically the lowest on record for women and minorities.

That's going to be a very difficult thing for many people to find cognitive balance with, and I actually think that Kathy has done quite well so far.