Barbara Bush on Trump: 'I don’t understand why people are for him'

Ty Webb

Well-Known Member
#5
Everyone but cucks, Russians and fascists hate Trump. The fact that Hamas hates him too isn't a differentiator.

Why do you love him?
Such an interesting post, and such a textbook study character you are.

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Propaganda eliminates self-doubt and builds a one-dimensional person who moves ahead with full confidence he is right.

Propaganda provides certainty. He is anxious without it. {{Repeat After Me}}

Propaganda can be very inconsistent. Subconsciously a person may notice the party line changing, but it is too painful for him to question the “new truth”

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The real question here (post Meuller report) is:

Why do you hate him?

(What is the new truth?)
 
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Subbabub

Well-Known Member
#7
Why do you support a lying, incompetent fool who is also an obviously criminal and traitor?

Why do you think the Barr letter completely exonerates Trump in the face of the publicly known evidence? Is it because Trump says so?

This is not an attack. It is a challenge to what I find to be an indefensible position.
 

Subbabub

Well-Known Member
#11
Your self awareness is astounding.
So gaslighting it is. Do you ever intend on defending yourself or just going to keep taking the beating? Why are you even here?

Not for nothing but our past experiences with Caddyshack themed posters have not be good. Do you know a guy by the name of Carl Spackler?
 

Ty Webb

Well-Known Member
#12
So gaslighting it is. Do you ever intend on defending yourself or just going to keep taking the beating? Why are you even here?

Not for nothing but our past experiences with Caddyshack themed posters have not be good. Do you know a guy by the name of Carl Spackler?
I already defended myself with what I wrote about your post above, I found it very interesting and I even 'liked' it. A little dopamine boost for you. Perhaps you're not familiar with foreign languages. I'll translate:

Rather than meet his ghost, the man looks for other ghosts in which he projects himself and who will allow him to live what he would have wanted.

That's you. You're desperately looking for validation for your propaganda addiction. Why do you hate him (post Mueller)? What is the new truth?

Why am I here? Why is anyone here? As for the rest of your post - I'm wondering if you(singular) are the same person as that other one that uses the wrong pronouns (or maybe the right ones) 'our' 'us' we' them. There is another one that wrote about trying to maintain seperate personas too.

Have you(pl) ever heard of Sybil?
 
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August_west

Well-Known Member
#13
Why do you hate him?

(What is the new truth?)
Can I take a crack at it?

Im lifting this from a Brit, but it should explain why we hate him

A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour, and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a bully's sniveling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
1. Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
2. You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of # 2. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
'My God… what… have… I… created?’
If being a tw@t was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
 

Subbabub

Well-Known Member
#14
I already defended myself with what I wrote about your post above, I found it very interesting and I even 'liked' it. A little dopamine boost for you. Perhaps you're not familiar with foreign languages. I'll translate:

Rather than meet his ghost, the man looks for other ghosts in which he projects himself and who will allow him to live what he would have wanted.

That's you. You're desperately looking for validation for your propaganda addiction. Why do you hate him (post Mueller)? What is the new truth?

Why am I here? Why is anyone here? As for the rest of your post - I'm wondering if you(singular) are the same person as that other one that uses the wrong pronouns (or maybe the right ones) 'our' 'us' we' them. There is another one that wrote about trying to maintain seperate personas too.

Have you(pl) ever heard of Sybil?
Your defense is "greatest election ever". Aside from the its childishness, it presumes complete fealty to Trump.

Your ability to copy paste from white nationalist websites impresses no one.

Your inabilty to focus on a conversation indicates something else.

You'll need to do better.
 

Ty Webb

Well-Known Member
#15
Can I take a crack at it?

Im lifting this from a Brit, but it should explain why we hate him

A few things spring to mind.
Trump lacks certain qualities which the British traditionally esteem.
For instance, he has no class, no charm, no coolness, no credibility, no compassion, no wit, no warmth, no wisdom, no subtlety, no sensitivity, no self-awareness, no humility, no honour, and no grace – all qualities, funnily enough, with which his predecessor Mr. Obama was generously blessed.
So for us, the stark contrast does rather throw Trump’s limitations into embarrassingly sharp relief.
Plus, we like a laugh. And while Trump may be laughable, he has never once said anything wry, witty or even faintly amusing – not once, ever.
I don’t say that rhetorically, I mean it quite literally: not once, not ever. And that fact is particularly disturbing to the British sensibility – for us, to lack humour is almost inhuman.
But with Trump, it’s a fact. He doesn’t even seem to understand what a joke is – his idea of a joke is a crass comment, an illiterate insult, a casual act of cruelty.
Trump is a troll. And like all trolls, he is never funny and he never laughs; he only crows or jeers.
And scarily, he doesn’t just talk in crude, witless insults – he actually thinks in them. His mind is a simple bot-like algorithm of petty prejudices and knee-jerk nastiness.
There is never any under-layer of irony, nuance or depth. It’s all surface.
Some Americans might see this as refreshingly upfront.
Well, we don’t. We see it as having no inner world, no soul.
And in Britain we traditionally side with David, not Goliath. All our heroes are plucky underdogs: Robin Hood, Dick Whittington, Oliver Twist.
Trump is neither plucky, nor an underdog. He is the exact opposite of that.
He’s not even a spoiled rich-boy, or a greedy fat-cat.
He’s more a fat white slug. A Jabba the Hutt of privilege.
And worse, he is that most unforgivable of all things to the British: a bully.
That is, except when he is among bullies; then he suddenly transforms into a bully's sniveling sidekick instead.
There are unspoken rules to this stuff – the Queensberry rules of basic decency – and he breaks them all. He punches downwards – which a gentleman should, would, could never do – and every blow he aims is below the belt. He particularly likes to kick the vulnerable or voiceless – and he kicks them when they are down.
So the fact that a significant minority – perhaps a third – of Americans look at what he does, listen to what he says, and then think 'Yeah, he seems like my kind of guy’ is a matter of some confusion and no little distress to British people, given that:
1. Americans are supposed to be nicer than us, and mostly are.
2. You don't need a particularly keen eye for detail to spot a few flaws in the man.
This last point is what especially confuses and dismays British people, and many other people too; his faults seem pretty bloody hard to miss.
After all, it’s impossible to read a single tweet, or hear him speak a sentence or two, without staring deep into the abyss. He turns being artless into an art form; he is a Picasso of pettiness; a Shakespeare of # 2. His faults are fractal: even his flaws have flaws, and so on ad infinitum.
God knows there have always been stupid people in the world, and plenty of nasty people too. But rarely has stupidity been so nasty, or nastiness so stupid.
He makes Nixon look trustworthy and George W look smart.
In fact, if Frankenstein decided to make a monster assembled entirely from human flaws – he would make a Trump.
And a remorseful Doctor Frankenstein would clutch out big clumpfuls of hair and scream in anguish:
'My God… what… have… I… created?’
If being a tw@t was a TV show, Trump would be the boxed set.
'we' hate. Which one of you am I discussing with now? Are you a boy or a girl? Never mind.

I wonder if you'd misstyped (the literally equivalent of Da Nang Dick misspeak) and want to take a crack hit, and not crack at it. A brit?

The desire to fulfill the post Mueller propaganda addiction is strong here.
 

August_west

Well-Known Member
#16
'we' hate. Which one of you am I discussing with now? Are you a boy or a girl? Never mind.

I wonder if you'd misstyped (the literally equivalent of Da Nang Dick misspeak) and want to take a crack hit, and not crack at it. A brit?

The desire to fulfill the post Mueller propaganda addiction is strong here.
"We" in this case means 'true Americans who actually care about this country enough to not want a con man leading us"*

That Brit speaks for ME.

and "We"*
 

Ty Webb

Well-Known Member
#17
"We" in this case means 'true Americans who actually care about this country enough to not want a con man leading us"*

That Brit speaks for ME.

and "We"*
Do you live in the UK? A UK citizen? It makes no sense what you're writing. Why would a Brit speak for Americans? They still haven't really gotten over that whole revolution thing. maybe you did take a crack hit.
 

Ty Webb

Well-Known Member
#18
Your defense is "greatest election ever". Aside from the its childishness, it presumes complete fealty to Trump.

Your ability to copy paste from white nationalist websites impresses no one.

Your inabilty to focus on a conversation indicates something else.

You'll need to do better.
Geez. This personality is full of hate. I'm not sure what you're talking about copy and pasting. The stuff I wrote in that first post I thought about what you said was interesting is from page 238 of my copy of a book by the same guy's ghost who's tweet I posted. I'm my own resource. This personality of yours is really full of hatred to see 'white nationalism' in what I wrote, and I'm entirely focused on this conversation via digital language typing. Please bring the other personality back, the nicer one. That one hasn't answered the question yet.

Why do you hate Trump? What is the new truth?
 

August_west

Well-Known Member
#20
and it was. The Best. Election. Ever.

Until 2020 that is.

The reflexive control population opinion control loop is most effective when the predictable response behaviour is fed by truthful information - most often - partial truth.

make no mistake though, Ty Webb is not the only one susceptible. Ty is especially vulnerable now though, based on the failed election propaganda campaign that was "Trump isnt in Putins pocket". Most Alt-righters are equally susceptible, as is any population with the predictable response to a stimulus.

Trump collusion denial syndrome is real time large scale study of reflexive control theory, and the dupes are using it to drive internet ratings and television viewership.